Swoopes--VY 2.0?

Question

...or Terrell Pryor 2.0? Discuss, with civility...

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by 2th DK.

Answer 1

His Jr. film makes him look more like Cam Newton 2.0 to me. More of a tackle breaking bull than an a graceful ankle breaker like VY.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by Hornoflatulence.

Answer 2

VY 3.0, just watched his highlights and he scares me,when ya look at VY highlights...Twins...amazing...just amazing.



HOOK'em

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by FlourBluffHorn.

Answer 3

i don't want to rain on our party, but did the rest of his team just blow goats? they were mediocre in 2a, and never really lit up the scoreboard as a team. anybody have any info on this?

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by Iceman...arsons.

Answer 4

Rather large shoe to fill, being touted as the 2nd coming of VY. I hope the kid has broud shoulders and thick skin.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by LittleJoe24.

Answer 5

Tyrone Swoopes 1.0

Heisman 1 NC 2 BCS Wins, 3 wins over OU and 3 Big XII Titles.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by VaHorns.

Answer 6

Have you ever watched Cam Newton run? Unbelievable abiity to stop and start and cut and change directions for a guy who weighs 250 pounds. He had one run against LSU in college and another run against the Redskins in the NFL where 7 or 8 defensive players did a face plant straight in the ground while trying to tackle him. Two of the most amazing runs I have ever seen by anybody on any level

This post was edited on 2/17 2:43 PM by ohsfan26

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by ohsfan26.

Answer 7

No kidding, EVERYONE needs to slow down on the next VY with this kid

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by smaxx.

Answer 8

Have you watched film on VY in college; he was a monster if you didnt already know that. Dont think anyone here was insulting Cams ability to run. You took it as an insult because youve already come over here trashing VY and Swoopes already today.

Move along; the only reason Cam was even at Auburn was because Florida was gonna kick him out of school and Auburn wrote him a nice fat check. Besides isnt it your dundering fans who wanted Turner Gill and not Chizik? "We want a winner not a loser!" comes to mind when you guys hired him.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by VaHorns.

Answer 9

like the sounds of that!

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by icdb17.

Answer 10

It says something about a kid who knows Ash and McCoy are at the top off the list with Brewer and Overstreet coming in and yet he still thinks he can compete. Nice competitive swagger.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by RollLeft.

Answer 11

No, I just corrected the guy's assessment of Cam Newton's running style. Not sure why you got so defensive over those facts

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by ohsfan26.

Answer 12

Dude any of the names being tossed around are good. Be it VY, Pryor, or Cam.

Terrelle Pryor had a nice career statistically. Finished his JR year leading his team to a nice BCS win. Had them in BCS bowl as a SO. Who knows what he might have done had he not screwed up off the field. But the guy is in the NFL currently. So if Swoopes progressed on the field as Pryor, you couldn't complain. And that was the OPs, bad example.


To me, Swoopes is just plain Swoopes. No need to call him the next Cam or VY or Tebow or the next anything. I hope he just does him. I can see the comparisons to VY. The photos Scholz put up of the two are like mirror images. And both have the UT thing. I have high hopes he will be a good one. Who knows?

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by TEXASwinsYOUlose.

Answer 13

Yeah, guys, let's calm down a bit here. The guy is a great pick up and I'm excited to see more of what he can do. I'm glad he's coming to play at UT. I'm glad he's not going to any other schools. And yeah, sure, from the few pictures and videos I've seen I can see reasons for comparisons to any of the guys being mentioned.

That said, it wasn't that long ago that even the HEB here in Austin was selling "I

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by mister...ksomeS.

Answer 14

No offense can be implied in comparing him to Cam Newton. VY is almost as big as Cam, but he was plain faster and more elusive than Newton. When I saw Cam play South Carolina early last year, he reminded me of VY, but I wasnt overly impressed.

He got better as the year went on obviously. Swoopes reminds me more of Cam than VY. He doesnt look as fast, but he does look like a better passer coming out of HS.

Again, hes playing 16yos, not 21yos. He will be fine hopefully, but it will be a big step up. RS him. With Ash and Brewer, we shouldnt need Swoopes to come right in and steal the show. VY benefited greatly from red shirting, and Cam benefited from playing JC ball before Auburn.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by DrinkToIt.

Answer 15

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by TEXASwinsYOUlose.

Answer 16

Cam and Vince Young ran exactly the same 40 yard dash time at the NFL combine even though Cam is almost 20 pounds heavier. Cam also had more yards both rushing and passing in his rookie year in the NFL than Vince Young has had in any year he has been in the NFL.

If you dont think Cam is incredibly elusive go to youtube abd look up any video of him. When Cam first commited to Auburn, I looked up some of his junior college highlights on youtube and my jaw was literally on the ground from the amazement at his running ability

Texas fans are the only people who would take Vince Young ahead of Cam or even put them on the same level. I guarantee not 1 person in the NFL or 1 coach outside of Mack Brown or Vince's high school coach would take him ahead of Cam...especially not right now

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by ohsfan26.

Answer 17

Since I saw what the Ags were saying about Oliver when he committed, I actually ventured over to see what that would say about Swoopes. I ALMOST never check their boards but yea its equally ridiculous statements. Being sensible I would normally blame it on a few silly fans. But living where I do and dealing with some of there "intelligent""informed" fans its not just the typical dumbasses that think this way.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by T_R_U_T_H.

Answer 18

You were impressed a kid who committed to UF and was the next "Tebow" could outrun some JC players? Im sure tons of coaches would take Cam over VY right now. Cam also has only been in the NFL 1 year. YV rookie year was pretty impressive in its own right. I saw 2-3 impressive runs vs Arkansas and LSU. But go put on a VY highlight from college beside a Cam highlight; Both were great no doubt about it; but to say Cam is on this whole different world/level; you have a very small sample size. 1 Year of JC, 1 Year @ Auburn and Rookie Year in NFL. Come back in 5 years and see if he is still setting the world on fire.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by VaHorns.

Answer 19

Cam had over 200 yards rushing against LSU, something like 176 rushing yards against South Carolina, 150 rushing yards against Georgia, 150 or 200 yards rushing against Arkansas, and over 1400 rushing yards for the entire season. In fact, Cam lead the entire SEC in rushing yards during his 1 year at Auburn...which obviously means he had more rushing yards than any running back in the SEC

Cam also had 700 rushing yards during his rookie season in the NFL. I could be wrong, but I believe that is more rushing yards than any NFL quarterback has had in a single season other than Micheal Vick...at least in modern times

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by ohsfan26.

Answer 20

You have GOT to be the most obnoxious mother fvcker I have seen on here in a long time, bammerblows, you teenage doosh.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by HoustonLonghorn.

Answer 21

Probably because Cam played one year, and VY played three (with two Rose Bowl wins, a NC, and nine Rose Bowl TDs). The comparison with Terrell Pryor implies who he will resemble at the college, since TP hasn't played in the pros yet. It's kinda technical.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by 2th DK.

Answer 22

Good lord dude. I wasn't picking a fight over who is better VY or Cam. If you do not see the differences in their running styles in college, so be it. I do. VY ran with a grace unlike anything I've ever seen before or since. That is not to say more or less elusive. The film on Swoopes looks like Cam to me.

That is all.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by Hornoflatulence.

Answer 23

I don't care that much what a kid ran after 5 months of training without pads on. Put on the tape. Both are very talented.

It is not crazy to say VY is more fluid and evasive, while Cam is more of a bruiser. In fact, it is obvious.

I urge you to go look up the youtube of VY. There are MANY pundits who have VY as one of the best college players of all time. The hype train was high after his second Rose Bowl win. I remember turning on the TV in my hotel in LA and listening to Herbstreit and Corso drooling over VY and calling it the greatest NC game performance ever. I remember wanting them to shut up when the topic of leaving early for NFL came up. Didn't see the same thing with Cam in his MNC game. That being said, he was a great one year college player. And his one year is the reason that MANY pundits have VY ranked ahead of him in the debate. It is really as simple as you make it.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by TEXASwinsYOUlose.

Answer 24

Are you kidding? The national pundits said Cam single handedly led Auburn to the national championship over the course of the entire season. The national championship might not have been Cam's best game, but he still had something like 65 or 70 yards rushing, 260 or 270 yards passing with two touchdown passes, and 330 or 340 yards total offense all together

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by ohsfan26.

Answer 25

This thread is about VY, TP, and TS. We'll never know what VY would have done as a senior, but it would have been amazing. His performance in the NC game was the single greatest performance I've ever seen. Cam is awesome, too, but we don't care about him. He played JUCO near here, not AT here.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by 2th DK.

Answer 26

Never cared much for Fig Newtons. Some of the other flavors were pretty good though. Raspberry is great!

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by mister...ksomeS.

Answer 27

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by TEXASwinsYOUlose.

Answer 28

As for Swoopes, I am very glad we got him. Hope he has a great summer, gets some tips from the staff on what to work on. Starts a better diet and workout program as most top JR recruits do before their SR year.

And I hope he has a great career at UT and makes a name for himself.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by TEXASwinsYOUlose.

Answer 29

Those numbers you posted only prove something if you think Texas Tech's defense is equal to Alabama's defense or Oklahoma State's defense is equal to LSU's defense or Kansas' defense is equal to Georgia's defense, or Iowa State's defense is equal to Arkansas defense or Baylor's defense is equal to South Carolina's defense. Nobody in their right mind would believe that either

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by ohsfan26.

Answer 30

Bla bla. Way to fudge the comparisons. Or if you think USCs defense was worse than Vanderbilts. And way to ignore that VY sat out almost every 4th quarter while Cam didn't.
This is a stupid subjective argument anyway.
I think I am not going to have pizza for dinner, instead I will eat chicken parm while not thinking about how much dumber this conversation (and every post of yours) made me.

This post was edited on 2/17 5:24 PM by TEXASwinsYOUlose

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by TEXASwinsYOUlose.

Answer 31

Man, give it up. They're both great players... and you're on a UT board trying to make a subjective argument (if you don't know what that means, look up the difference between subjective and objective) about why someone is better than one of UT's best players ever. "Nobody in their right mind would believe" that's a productive or intelligent thing to attempt.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by mister...ksomeS.

Answer 32

But, you're from the SEC right? Doesnt that mean you arent in your right mind. So does that mean you believe it?

Oh, and one other thing. Why is this Gator fan throwin' up a Hook'Em? I figure since you're a retard from the SEC SEC SEC like him, maybe you can shed some light.

Thanks!



Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by HornosaurusRex.

Answer 33

Those jorts disturb me, and will haunt my dreams.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by txleapd.

Answer 34

Academically, VY 3.0

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by Iitbhorn3.

Answer 35

That is one ugly and freaky looking ginger.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by HoustonLonghorn.

Answer 36

Hw many times did Cam rush for 200 yards AND pass for 200 yards against the No. 1 team in the nation?

How many times did he rush for 200 yards in a BCS Bowl game?

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by 86Horn.

Answer 37

Stanford? Sounds like VY 4.0

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by HornosaurusRex.

Answer 38

jorts? yeah, I got yer jorts.



SEC SEC SEC SEC
number 1!!!

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by HornosaurusRex.

Answer 39

Exactly this. All of this talk needs to not even get started.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by hornowl94.

Answer 40

And, LSU's, UGA's, etc's D never faced Texas Tech, OU, Mizzou, Texas, etc offense.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by Tate17.

Answer 41

I just watched his highlight film, and I see quite a few similarities to VY. He doesn't glide in the same manner VY did, but their overall running skills are similar. He seems a little more accepting to contact, but that is about it. The passing skills seem very similar to VY IMO. Swoopes' delivery is somewhat side armed, but it isn't quite to the degree of VY's. Of course, he looks like VY against 2A competition.

Ultimately, I wished we could see him against better competition, but the offer list is quite impressive. Overall, I can see why the ranking services somewhat vary on him, but this is the guy the staff wanted. When the staff gets their #1 guy, it is always a good thing.

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by Tate17.

Answer 42

You finally found a picture of ohsfan?

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by jrwoodchuck.

Answer 43

Today's Austin American Statesman(sat 2/18) had a nice writeup on how Swoopes aspires to be the next Vince Young. Good Read..

This post was edited on 2/18 2:23 PM by moondog4

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by moondog4.

Answer 44

Trevor Knight Andrew Luck 2.0?

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by sooner_mike.

Answer 45

The kid has skills. One thing to remember here is the offense he's coming into is far more complex than the one Vince did. I think he'll be a good one, but he and the team will probably fare better if they don't rush it. I'd give him at least 2-3 years on campus before running him out there.

This post was edited on 2/19 6:48 AM by fookA&M

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by fookA&M.

Answer 46

Swoopes!



Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by HornosaurusRex.

Answer 47

By the time he leaves campus, to be "Swooped" will be common-place vernacular

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by AkersN.

Answer 48

Don't forget the last 5* to ut.

Garrett Gilbert 1.8

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by GodwuzanAg.

Answer 49

a&m, where 5 starts go to die - remember mcneal? ;) And whiffing on Gilbert was what it was - Texas still has the better team though, so... yeah. Good call.

And fwiw- Remember one of the last QB's at Texas that wasn;t a 5 star? - think his name was Colt McCoy.... Seems he did fairly well against aggy, and in general. Now will we EVER get to see an aggy team, coached by an aggy coach, have a low rated player coached up into a record setting player at their position - my guess is never. But enjoy the anal raping in the SEC, and on the recruiting trail. Aggy only thought they were losing out head to head vs Texas in that area..............

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by LonghornSoldier.

Answer 50

We'll have a QB go in the first round in the NFL draft this year that wasn't even recruited as a QB. We've sent Reggie, McGee, and now RT to the NFL. How many have you sent 2?

Was it the same guy you fired a couple years ago that 'coached up' Colt?

Originally posted on Longhorn Sports by GodwuzanAg.