Sheldon Jeter bigtime get for Court cocks

Question

Hope we can land this guy. Has offers from Penn State, Wisconsin, and Pitt is starting to recruit him hard. Rated official to USC a solid 10 and said he felt like home from the get go at USC, and misses it already now that he's left. The kid is still growing, and has put on three inches in the last two years (6-8) and 20 pounds (213lbs.) Sounds like maybe he has us at the top. We really need another big guy to go with Harris, and Gill moving forward. Hopefully we pull him in with one more solid PG this class. I also got word that Baker nor Morris have taken us totally out of consideration. If Smith moves on we could take four this year on scholarship.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by trae172001.

Answer 1

not sure if you heard Kornblut's report?? He was very positive about trip to USC but Kornblut said if Pitt offers he will be hard to get. So far they have not offered so time will tell.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by MorganEFan.

Answer 2

Smith is being chased off by Horn?

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by world famous 3rd base hecklers.

Answer 3

Why would he ruin his potential career to play for a suck a$$ coach like we have?

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by SpartanburgCock77.

Answer 4

We talkin men's Volleyball?

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by KJHillis.

Answer 5

No, but like with Galloway, and Spinnella, Smith pt will be cut tremendously if he stays. Williams is developing, and will be solid behind Ellington. Smith could move to a smaller school like Galloway and average 12-15 points a game. That would leave us short at the point, but hopefully we could pick up a young one with higher upside than Smith has. Like Galloway he's not a Major college player.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by trae172001.

Answer 6

Same can be said for Richardson too.


Both of them (along with Galloway and Spinnella) Horn recruits.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by Rollerdude123.

Answer 7

Gamecocks need some shooters.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by johnnyplaid.

Answer 8

Not gonna mean shit as long as Horn is still the "coach".

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by ArmyPanther.

Answer 9

Trae, Galloway isn't a major college player?

Galloway averaged 10.7 pts, 2.6 ast, 1.7 rebs as a soph at USC.
Ellington averages 9.7 pts, 2.5 ast, 2.6 rebs as a soph at USC.

Does this mean Ellington isn't a major college player also? Galloway wasn't a star, but he wasn't over his head. And USC could have definitely used his 45 % shooting from 3 this year.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by ToddFlanders.

Answer 10

Todd your post makes sense...but its not all about stats.

To answer your questions...No Galloway isn't a major a college player and Yes Ellington is.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by ArmyPanther.

Answer 11

What's your definition of a major player? What school in the SEC, ACC, Big East, Big 10 or PAC 12 would Ellington star for? (Not start, but rather where would he be a star?) I'll bet the number is limited to 1 hand, and maybe 1 finger.

Not saying Ellington is a bad player. But, I don't rate him as a major. He's a marvelous athlete who stubbornly is living a dream, but he's not good enough to ever be a great BB player. And, so long as he screws around with BB, he'll never reach his potential in FB. It's his call of course. But, if Horn was able to actually recruit some true basketball players, I seriously doubt Ellington would be wasting his time with basketball, because he'd generally be riding the pine.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by The Real Atlanta Cock.

Answer 12

But, you'd have to take his 20% from 2 this year as he's going into the shooting tank in Philly.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by MidwestCock.

Answer 13

Don't know who is or is not a Major College but I do know RPI. 181. Carolina, 178 Wofford, 167 Charleston SOuthern, 160 Wake Forest, 154 Charlotte, 148 Clemson. 134 Upstate, 122 Asheville, 116 Georgia, 93 Pitt, 73 LaSalle, 22 Wisconsin, and a Mid Major 15 Wichita State...LaSalle is only 108 spots ahead of us. Wichita State 166 spots ahead of us!!!!!

This post was edited on 2/22 11:44 PM by simms2000

Link: RPI

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by simms2000.

Answer 14

If a recruit wants to come here because he loves USC and Columbia then Welcome aboard!!!!

However, if a recruit wants to come here because of DH, then he is making a very bad decision!

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by sully2.

Answer 15

Two things to consider not that it really matters as Galloway is a Shooting guard, and Ellington is a point guard, and hopefully you understand the difference and how much easier it is to score from the two rather than the one.

1) Galloways average included the first part of the season where he was able to play against lesser comp, while Ellington missed that part of the season for the most part due to football.

2) Had a offseason full of practices, and Ellington didn't, and thus Ellington started off slow against SEC comp.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by trae172001.

Answer 16

So does that mean that we were sadly mistaken to run Galloway off and turn the reins over to Leonard?? Don't compare Galloway to Ellington...compare Galloway to Leonard...therein lies a big part of our downfall this year.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by simms2000.

Answer 17

Leonard is a frshman, so I don't think we've seen the best from the young man yet. He's also a hard worker, and will improve. I think there are few that think Galloway has a higher ceiling than Leonard.

Where the problem lies is inside. We shot 4 free throws last night to their 28, and we only lost by 11, and the game was closer than that. That it itself is amazing. They shot 24 more freethrows than us, and beat us by 11. Going forward, Harris and Gill are going to be a huge difference with another year of getting bigger stronger and more experienced. We have to be able to get the ball down low and cause the D to collapse more and that will get us to the line and also get more wide open shots outside, and free up passing lanes. Basketball 101, but Harris like a offensive lineman needs more time to grow. Also like I stated in the OP, Jeter would be a huge get with Haughton already committed. Would be great to get another PG in this class.

I understand if you are looking at this program as a failure going forward. Keep in mind that I do not see it that way. I'm still excited about USC basketball program, and will always be. Therefore the Horn sucks comments are not contributing to this thread. There are plenty of those threads out there. I'm baiting for good conversation with those fans that are still sticking with the program, and hope we are successful next year.

OP: Sheldon Jeter bigtime get for Court cocks. That's what this thread is about.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by trae172001.

Answer 18

I think Leonard isthe only player on thisteam that has potential to be a difference maker. He has struggled with his shot but that will improve greatly in my opinion. He is the best shooter we have had since Jamel Bradley, but is more athletic. I see him being a consistent 15-20 pt scorer for the next 3 years. We need someone else to score and an offensive schme to get some of these guys open shots rather than throwing up desperation shots at the end of a shot clock. If you pay attention to our offense we never set screens for guys goingto the basket. It is always guys going away from the basket.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by buenocock.

Answer 19

Hate to disagree but watched him in high school. One thing you can say about a true D-1 prospect, when he is on court with no other D-1 prospect he should stand out, never saw that with Leonard.

Leonard is a decent shooter who at times can get hot. He does not create his own shot, so it is up to someone to get him good looks. Galloway could at least create his own shot.

Trae when you say Jeter is a big get you sound like you are saying he has committed and is a done deal. Again, Kornblut said if Pitt offers it is most likely that is where he goes. To say he is a big get is a stretch.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by MorganEFan.

Answer 20

Oh come on.. Chase off players is not the answer to correct our problem. Horn can't coach and he can't recruit. For once, we need to chase Horn off and get a real coach and stop chasing our players away!

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by world famous 3rd base hecklers.

Answer 21

How refreshing to see a statement like this. I will be at the game Saturday and am very much looking forward to it.

I agree this season has been disappointing but I am excited about this team as well. I think 5 or 6 of those freshmen and sophs are going to pay big dividends next season. I still think we are one big man away from being where we need to be but imo Ellington, Slawson, Harris, Gill, Leonard, and Williams are improving and will continue to do so. I wouldn't be surprised if Ellington gives up football to focus 100% on Basketball next season. I also look at these guys and wonder what some folks are thinking when they say Horn can't recruit. I saw Slawson and Ellington play a # of games in AAU and the gym would be packed full of college coaches drooling over Slawson in particular. As soon as the game was over, all of the coaches would leave.. they wouldn't even bother to stick around to watch the next game. no quesion, Slawson was the guy they all wanted and Horn was the coach who signed Slawson.

I did not see Leonard play AAU, but from what I gather on this board, it was pretty much the same scenario.




Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by lexcats.

Answer 22

Once again. IT'S GUARANTEED that HORN is here for AT LEAST ONE MORE YEAR.
But then again that has nothing to do with this thread does it. I have not clicked on your thread that I have passed over several times today, and started talking about something other than the OP.

Sheldon Jeter bigtime get for Court cocks: is the title of the thread, and I have openly encouraged any other transitional talk and recruiting talk pertaining to our players. Please use common sense and make yourself aware that you have stated your case about Horn in your thread, and everyone sees the topic. Therefore there is no need in your continuous hi-jacking of threads about the players. Thanks!

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by trae172001.

Answer 23

I will give you one thing trae. You are one of the few left that wants to go down with a sinking ship. You say our problem is inside ? We are one of the worst 3 pt shooting teams in the conference! So you may be right about our inside troubles but we absolutely Suck from the outside as well. Galloway not a D1 player? I bet he could help this poor team this year. Thats why it made no sense for Horn to run him off. I hope DL comes around but he doesn't seem very athletic to me and his shot has been off all year. I realize he is a freshmen so maybe he will turn out ok. Back to the OP:if Jeter comes here it will because he just fell in love with the USC but like someone else pointed out if Pitt offers he is probably gone.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by picock.

Answer 24

There are some that disagree with you as well apparently or he would not have been recruited by Kentucky, Kansas, Arizona, Wake Forrest along with 7 other major schools. He was rated the number 85 recruit in the nation 22 at his position. He is a freshman, and has a high ceiling. It's hard for me to discount his capabilites as a freshman on a struggling team. Maybe in a few years he'd be a guy that could carry a team, but not going to lay that on his back right now. Same can be said for Ellington, Gill, and Harris. All four have very very high ceilings.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by trae172001.

Answer 25

I will go down with USC, but USC can't go down.

Jeter was very impressed with Horn. I think we may have a problem when we start speaking for the recruits, and know their like and dislikes without ever personally knowing the young men.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by trae172001.

Answer 26

Sheldon Jeter is a shooting guard/small forward. I don't think his actual position has been stated in this thread.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by CurryStorm.

Answer 27

Whether Galloway is a D1 calibre player or not, his absence this season has hurt us. Galloway was out of control at times, but athletically, I'd put him up against anyone on our team right now. Between Galloway and Holloman, we lost two guys that would be getting some good minutes, adding depth, adding scoring, adding rebounding, and other areas we are lacking in 2011/2012.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by hobcawcreekcock.

Answer 28

Pleasantly surprised that we're getting this kind of attention from a recruit like Jeter at this point. He seems to be one that has benefited greatly from a very good Sr season and is getting considerably more attention than before. With early commits & signings, quality spring recruits are a rarity.
Also, I wish more folks would give Galloway credit for the season he's having. I've seen numerous posts about LaSalle & the level of comp, but they are #78 in the linked RPI & the A-10 is a good basketball conference. With Ramon & Murphy Holloway, I think we would have been a pretty good team "but"......(definitely not candy & nuts!)

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by Ernest T.Cox.

Answer 29

Galloway has been on a downward spiral for a lil while now. I've been keeping up with the young man as Once a Gamecock always a Gamecock. I'm pulling for him, but the kid made a decision for himself to move on and get playing time.

Galloway over the last 5 games has gone 17-55 31% fg and 6-16 37% from 3pt.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by trae172001.

Answer 30

37% is still OK on 3's...translates to about 55% on 2's. I also wish him much success at LaSalle.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by Ernest T.Cox.

Answer 31

Heck if we would have shot 37% on threes we might have won last night!

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by picock.

Answer 32

now you are starting to make things up

1) Galloway averaged more points per game in the SEC than he did in the non conference games. In fact, he closed out the year as one of the only players on the team that was getting better. He scored in double-figures in six of last seven contests, including a team-best 17 points in SEC Tournament contest vs. Ole Miss.

but would soon be told he should move on.


2) In October last season, Galloway broke his right foot and missed all of preseason practice.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by Rollerdude123.

Answer 33

as say compared to another sophomore shooting guard in Brian Richardson who is not not even playing at all now.

I believe you - trae - told us about how he would improve this year.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by Rollerdude123.

Answer 34

If we played St. Josephs, Richmond, St. Louis, UMASS and Temple, instead of Tenn, Ark, UGA, LSU and Vandy we MAY have shot 37% from three. What about the 31% FG?

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by trae172001.

Answer 35

For the Love of all that's holy- don't start putting down other teams to make silly points.



UMASS whipped ELON all over the court- and we lost to Elon.

Let's not get started down that path. It will make us look worse than we already do.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by Rollerdude123.

Answer 36

I believe you - trae - told us about how he would improve this year.
I believe you stated you didn't like Horn personally and admitted bias. Why is there a need for a program supporter vs. anti-horn pissing contest in a legit basketball program support thread?

I don't have a dog in this fight, but if you admittedly cannot objectively assess a situation, there seems to be plenty of threads where you can bash away with like minded posters. This is the first basketball recruit thread of the new year, and I am interested in learning more about this impressive young man instead of retread arguments that stopped being constructive last month.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by hosemeoff.

Answer 37

Temple beat Duke this year and is currently sitting on 22 wins.



Again, let's not bring up really silly points in order to try to make us look better - because it's only making us look worse.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by Rollerdude123.

Answer 38

if you want to learn more about this "impressive young man" i've linked an article about him from the recruiting angle below.

I'm not sure you are going to get a very accurate picture of the young man from Trae- who says a lot of things that aren't adding up - like how Richardson would improve this year.

Link: Link

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by Rollerdude123.

Answer 39

if you want to learn more about this "impressive young man" i've linked an article about him from the recruiting angle below.

I'm not sure you are going to get a very accurate picture of the young man from Trae- who says a lot of things that aren't adding up - like how Richardson would improve this year.Appreciate the link. I've read it before, but his optimism is indeed impressive.

Regarding trae, I appreciate his support of the program, but I don't rely on his talent evaluations. Holding people accountable for optimistic predictions, which they have no control over, seems myopic. I've seen much reverence to Jamel Bradley when it comes to discussing shooters, but he certainly had some ice-cold stretches and didn't really become a scoring threat till his third year in the program. Call me naive, but I still think Richardson and Leonard can improve their shots, which would make us much more competitive considering the open looks they get.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by hosemeoff.

Answer 40

Trae was very quick to fully support Horn when he told Galloway to move on.


Galloway, a 2nd year player, averaged over 11 points a game in conference. Richardson, a 2nd year player, can't even earn playing time now.


That's not an attack on Richardson. That's an attack on the selective arguments that Trae offers.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by Rollerdude123.

Answer 41

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by Rollerdude123.

Answer 42

Near the end of the season Galloway was one of the better players during SEC play. He missed most of the cupcake part of our schedule due to a broken foot. Trae stop making stuff up.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by shiverz.

Answer 43

Hosmeoff, I'm sticking with the program, and giving honest opinions as well as my share of shared info from the program. I enjoy the conversation, and have learned that there are plenty that enjoy discussion things. I do forget things as they happened, and make mistakes, but my info is usually right on. As far as the posters that bash and follow me from thread t thread because they are obviously threatened by my opinion I ignore them.

I hope we land this young man it will be huge.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by trae172001.

Answer 44

Shiverz< I don't make things up, I forgot. You are 100 percent correct that Galloway started the year injured last year. Still, he is a Shooting Guard, and Ellington is a PG. Different position all together and easier to score from the SG position. I know there are some that score from the PG position, but it's easier and more common to have scoring SHOOTING guards. It's even in the name.

My appologies for my forgetfullness.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by trae172001.

Answer 45

Trae I can forgive your forgetfulness...I have a problem with some of your posts which are fabrication. While you were degrading Galloway's performance you forgot that he was hurt while remembering and making light of the teams he plays against. Again, LaSalle has an RPI of 84 versus our 177. You mention the powerful SEC competition of Georgia (121) Tenn (100)Arkansas (91) LSU (63) and I'll give you Vandy (25) while poo pooing Temple (14), St. Louis (22),St. Joseph's (57), UMass (81) and Richmond (128). (Don't you dare dis Richmond they're 50 spots ahead of us). You assure us that Marshall can't turn this program around even though he has built two programs, made numerous NCAA appearances at two schools, has won right at 300 games, descends from Buck Freeman, Frank McGuire, Looie Carnesseca, John Kresse...and has his team currently at no. 11 RPI. You talk about what a hard worker Leonard is as if you're there at the practices. You will not acknowledge that Leonard is no longer a freshman in experience...we are near the end of the season and he has been a 31% shooter 2 and 3 pointers. Richardson who you assure us will improve is shooting 23% from three point range and he is a sophomore. Ellington shoots 35% overall but he and Leonard have taken the bulk of our shots especially in crunch time. Cook is our other shooter at 41% but he hits only 31% from three. You are ready to let Smith go because he doesn't meet our standards, yet from a shooting standpoint he is 20-48 from 3 (41%) and shooots 42% from both. Jackson, the lousy shooter, hits 49% of his shots, Gill hits 46% of his shots, Slawson and Harris are at 56% and 54% if you don't let Slawson shoot threes. For some reason our coach can't come to the realization that he is running his entire offense through poor shooting guards while failing to go through the guys with the highest shooting percentages. Ellington needs to become a basketball only player and a true point guard or a two, Williams and Smith need to play the point. And finally I hope we do get Sheldon Jeter if he is the world beater you say he is...he will need to replace Malik Cook, probably our most valuable and consistent player...as a freshman.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by simms2000.

Answer 46

I thought Jeter was a 2 star. Am I wrong ? How is that a "huge get" ?

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by parguy.

Answer 47

So wjhat about Kentucky, Florida? And like we all know Houston would have lost to UGA in football, we all know St. Josephs couldn't beat Tenn and St. Louis couldn't beat LSU. Forgive me for not looking at those numbers that mean little compared to how good a team is. For instance St. Louis has a RPI of 22, but what are they ranked??? EXACTLY. Not in the top 25, and if they play South Carolinas schedule they'd be out of the top 50. Just like If Murry State played USC schedule they be out of the top 30.Answer this. Who is better WSU or Murry State? EXACTLY. Sometime you have to think for yourself brother man.

I never assured anyone that Marshall couldn't turn this program around. I said he most likely wouldn't turn it around quickly enough to please some of the fan base unless he got a huge break like Eddie Fogler.

I must give you the one about me not acknowledging Leonard as a Freshman in experience. He's a FRESHMAN . Leonard is a hard worker, and I know he is for fact. Do you attend practice? Do you know he's not?

Mini me has been following me around saying I said that Richardson would improve. Heck maybe I did, and maybe he has but I don't see what a big deal it is either way. If I did, I said it last year, and I'm glad you remembered. But keep bringing it up. Whatever works for ya.

I never said Sheldon Jeter was a world beater, but hey I've seen a lot of going to the extreme here lately. There is a reason why you guys have to do that.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by trae172001.

Answer 48

True parguy...I think you're correct in that Jeter is a 2-Star, but it appears he had a great SR season & will probably climb in the ratings. He is garnering much more attention than pre-season & regarded as a late-bloomer. Besides, if you need players, not many are available in the spring anymore.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by Ernest T.Cox.

Answer 49

Trae...your last post speaks volumes. I'm out with you.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by simms2000.

Answer 50

I reminded you of it because you were 100% ok with Galloway moving on- yet you talked about how Richardson would improve (and he didn't) and now he's not even playing.


You aren't consistent.

Originally posted on Fighting Gamecocks Forum by Rollerdude123.