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I don't get torn up over recruitng. I like it and find it interesting and in the past have even paid money to keep up with updates. But I swear some people alomost act like it is life or death. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it because people have different hobbies and following recruiting is legitimate. I've just seen where recruiting for State and Ole Miss just doesn't actually make that big a difference in on the field results. Neither one of us is likely to win a National Championship but listening to some people talk about recruiting you would think that one big recruit was going to make a difference on the National level. There are not many Eli Manning's around and they rarely come to our schools. At least not in the numbers that are going to make that big of a difference.

Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by jwsbully.
Started Jan 24
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I'll have to agree with ya bulldog.

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Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by Rebel Duckman.
Reply Jan 24
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It's called football withdrawl. As an Ole Miss fan I hate to admit I have been suffering from it for the past two years. ohwell
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by HightowerReb.
Reply Jan 24
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For Ole Miss and Miss Stake...It is, what it is. Sigh.
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by TheReb...vocate.
Reply Jan 24
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I hear you man. I've lost all the sleep I'm going to lose on recruiting. Almost every single 5 star stud Ole Miss has signed has been a flop or mediocre. Many of the 4 stars also. It's the players who come in and are willing to work who become the stars. But, even some of them, like Brandon Bolden and Brad Sowell, lose their focus and football becomes the second most important thing. Babies did them in. When I grew up you were suppose to have a job before you thought about having babies. Others become party animals and put in just enough to get by. Winning championships isn't in their thinking patterns. I'd be willing to bet right now our best player in this next class will be Issac Gross. He's got the right attitude from what i gather.
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by ranchreb.
Reply Jan 25
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I agree with you Ranch but I can really see Channing becoming a stud I just feel like he'll put in the work where others haven't. Another thing is I believe CHF is the type coach these guys are gonna want to give everything for. He just seems like the type of guy that these players will put everything on the line for IMO.
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by UMREB74.
Reply Jan 25
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There is certainly more to the sport than recruiting and lots of people, myself included at times, put too much stock in it. Probably because it's the only football news at the time. If games were being played in Feb I don't think it would make too much news above the fold.

That being said, I don't believe a team can be competitive in the SEC without SEC quality talent. Every once in a while a Vandy comes along and takes advantage of their opponent's coaching weaknesses to win with less but its just not that common.

Consistent winning is a combination of SEC quality talent with refuse to lose coaches.
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by bmacgowa.
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I'm hoping we dont sign anyone else named Gross so his jersey wont read
I Gross.
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by zreb.
Reply Jan 25
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I thought C.J. Johnson would be the next P Willis. After I saw Serderius Bryant play circles around him in practice I had to scratch my head about his 5 stars. Makes you wonder about the evaluators. He was doing well at DE at the end of the season though.
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by ranchreb.
Reply Jan 25
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Bully, you're right on the money. Good post. I've been coming to three games a year for many years and from Arizona, well, it's getting more expensive every year. We don't have the leg up that other programs have, in that our programs simply got behind, developmentally speaking, and we lack the funds to catch up.

Bama spends $4 million a year fro Saban, and I believes that's going up. Add to that the difference in revenue and recruitment budgets and there you have it.

We simply don't have the horses or the coaches...and I hate to say that, because I love Ole Miss and have many friends from State, and I do respect State.
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by Scottsreb.
Reply Jan 25
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I agree to a point, but I do not agree lack of money is the issue. We all recognize failures in coaching hires, but the cause of problem must be shared by the administration, i.e., lack of marketing and how resources are allocated. If lack of revenue is the problem, how do you explain Tennessee? Also, South Carolina had a huge following and did nothing until they hired the Ol' Ball coach. I feel we have a winner in Freeze, but I also recognize it will take several years for this hire to pay-off.
Perhaps by then we will have successfully completed the 150M campaign for athletics, and will have an visionary for a President and AD who realize this is not an end-all effort. We must have a new plan to execute just as soon as the Campaign is over. That is the model Alabama has been following for the past 10 years, and it has paid off big time!
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by GoodOReb.
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Nice post
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by LtownDAWG.
Reply Jan 25
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... paying much attention to recruiting with Kenny Lyons. Remember him? Then there was Buford McGee, who had one decent season (after Billy Brewer told him that the cure for "turf toe" was amputation).

I realize that, year in and year out, the schools that finish in the Top 10 in recruiting also finish in the Top 10 at the end of the season.

But I've seen too many "can't miss" kids miss, and a whole lot of "can't play at D-1 level" succeed (think Dexter McCluster).

There's a whole lot of people who get all breathless because some 9th grader in Wayne County has given a "soft verbal" to one school or another. It is really obscene that grown men get so caught up in all this hype.
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by Robin501.
Reply Jan 25
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I see your point and I think we are saying the same thing; we are so tight with money our admin could squeeze sxxx out of a buffalo nickle. We need more $ for recruiting and, for example, building better dorms, etc., that make us more attractive?
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by Scottsreb.
Reply Jan 25
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Chancellor Khayat raised 900M for academic excellence and capital improvements for the University. Now a 150M campaign for athletics is underway. My point is the 150M is a good start, but is not an end-all solution. While that campaign is ongoing, our new AD with the support of the Chancellor, should be developing a follow-on fund-raising plan which involves aggressive marketing. We cannot ever again rest on our laurels. No one in the SEC is standing still. P.S. Thought athletic dorms were no longer permitted by NCAA, but I could be wrong about that.
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by GoodOReb.
Reply Jan 25
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...and I'm hoping we hit the 150M. It would go a long way towards making us competitive.

You're right about the dorms. I was referring to the fact that we've had the last three coaching regimes complain about the dorms.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed on the money thing!
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by Scottsreb.
Reply Jan 25
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... on the site of old Miller Hall. If you haven't seen that location since football season, the area is unrecognizable.
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by Robin501.
Reply Jan 25
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Thanks for the update. Lived in Guess Hall my freshman year, which was up the hill from Miller.
Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by Scottsreb.
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You have to buy a lottery ticket in order to win the lottery. Those who buy a ticket don't always win, but those who don't never win.

It is a matter of money. Those programs that consistently invest in their program win more than those who don't. No major conference program that spends what we do wins consistently.

We will never be routinely competitive as long as our administration clips coupons and tries to always get something for nothing. It's been that way for forty years and will probably be that way for another forty.

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Originally posted on The Colonel's Quarters by WestCoastReb.
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