What do Clemson fans think of what Randy Edsall is doing at Maryland?

Question

some folks on here got pretty upset at Spurrier "running off players" when he got to USC. When Spurrier arrived he urged/pushed out/cut 7-8 players that weren't playing and that he didn't feel would contribute to the team. (similiar to a lot of coaches, especially Les Miles, and Nick Saban)

Randy Edsall has ridded himself of 24 Maryland football players since he took the job 13 months ago. Even the QB is leaving, and Edsall has made a point not to release him from his scholarship.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by SGamecock3.

Answer 1

he did release the QB, it was in todays paper


SS is a piece of crap, Edsall may be also

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by Orange Valley.

Answer 2

You sure he's pushing them out or do they not want to play for him.

Nobody runs off 24 that would be crazy!!!

That's why I think they don't want to play for him but if it make SOS look better in your eyes then I see your point

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by 4forcu.

Answer 3

Bingo...the frig was running the program like a country club. Randy X has laid the smack down and some guys can't cope. They signed up for one thing and now have something very different. Randy is one of the best up and coming coaches. Far from spurrier. Spurrier once greatly respected (weather you liked him or not) has fallen to be the butt of most cfb jokes.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by tigeronthelake.

Answer 4

Both- he's run some off - and some have left. He did an interview last week talking about kids not liking where they are on the depth chart and kids leave because of it. I have no problem with coaches running off players. Some of the folks on here had a big problem with it when Spurrier did it. I don't see folks on here upset when other coaches do it- as most all do it.

He also said "you gotta do is take a look around at other programs when there’s coaching changes ? Florida and Virginia, just to name a few ? you’re always gonna have people leave the program when a transition comes in"


He's getting major heat from the media- with reporters telling him face to face that they think he should be fired.

"AP: This is the first time we’ve had a chance to talk to you since the season ended, so I wanna cover a couple things. One is, you’ve just completed one of the worst ? if not the worst ? seasons in Maryland history. You have replaced your offensive and defensive coordinator. Numerous players have left with eligibility remaining, including a three-year starting offensive tackle. And I gotta be honest with you, I’ve said this on the air, that I don’t think you should be returning as head coach, and I wonder how you respond to that and others who feel the same way." = Andy Pollin WTEM

This post was edited on 2/14 4:38 PM by SGamecock3

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by SGamecock3.

Answer 5

Spurrier may be the butt of your jokes, but he's just completed an 11 win season, a Capital One Bowl win - and 2 years ranked in the top 25, and will probabably have a top 10-12 ranked team preseason.

I don't sense he's the butt of too many serious jokes - other than just simply being hated for who he is - which is the way he likes it.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by SGamecock3.

Answer 6

I disagree on both accounts.


If the head coach thinks folks need to leave, they need to leave in my book. I've never had a problem with it, and don't see a problem with it.

Not in today's college football business world.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by SGamecock3.

Answer 7

why would any of us expect anything different from you on SS

that doesn't change the fact he's a piece of sh*&

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by Orange Valley.

Answer 8

I said I have no problem with Randy Edsall - or anyone else doing it either- that includes Spurrier (would be extremely odd to not have a problem with others doing it, but having a problem with Spurrier doing it). So I'm consistent- and don't mind any coach doing it.

I've disagreed with Spurrier on this board quite a few times, to the point of many arguments.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by SGamecock3.

Answer 9

Whoa let's all bow down to the mighty SOS.

TS nobody gives a darn about SOS he's jerk and will always be the butt of jokes and I don't care if he never loses another game. Something will never change.

Love how all the sudden you run to defend him

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by 4forcu.

Answer 10

I don't defend Spurrier any differently than you defend Dabo.

I think we both support our coaches and are loyal to them as much as we possibly can be and give them the benefit of the doubt every chance we can, and then if we truly believe they've stepped in it, we'll say it.

There are those that will defend their own coach all the time, regardless of any situation possible. It's obvious to anyone on here that I don't fall into that category because people know I've said things that aren't always supportive of Spurrier, etc on this board, and others.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by SGamecock3.

Answer 11

You have jumped on the SOS band wagon more than I've ever seen you.

You said along time ago that SOS was wrong for running players off. Before you come back with some kind of spin. You said on FGF and they blasted you for it. Now you try make it ok for him to do that now??

Funny how winning will change some people.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by 4forcu.

Answer 12

I've always been consistent in saying I have no problem with the practice of trimming the fat and I will take it a step further - I think Clemson should do more of it.

What is going on at Maryland is deeper than that. Randy is in danger of losing that team - I know he is making a drastic culture change, but at the rate he is going, some other coach will reap the benefits because he won't be there if they go through 2 more awful seasons. I think that is likely as they simply have no depth and are already short on talent.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by XTIGERK.

Answer 13

Spurrier is not the butt of any of my jokes after the 3 ass whippings he has handed Clemson.
The fact doesn't change that many people, not just Clemson fans, see him
as an arrogant prick who takes pot shots at other teams & coaches when things are going his way; but is not heard from or gives some smart ass reply when he gets his ass kicked.

This post was edited on 2/15 11:18 AM by Tkinard43

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Originally posted on The Bad Apple by Tkinard43.

Answer 14

Did you feel that way when you played?

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by 4forcu.

Answer 15

Yep. I was a walk on who busted my ass and earned a scholarship. There were plenty of guys who were lazy and not taking advantage of their God given ability. They were hurting themselves and the team with laziness / attitude. The school gave you the opportunity - it's up to you to take advantage of it and do the right things. If we simply just miss on a kid and he is a hard worker, does all the right things and make good grades then you shouldn't push him out. You should be honest with him and tell him he probably never cracks the 2 deep and some of those kids will leave for playing time elsewhere. Many will stay because they love the school. Essentially there is a right and wrong way to handle these things. Again - if a kid is working his tail off, is a positive influence in the locker room and is making good grades then you can't cut that kid. You can be honest with him but it has to be his choice. When I talk about trimming the fat, the kid above is not that kid. Matt Sanders for example won't crack the 2 deep and was ruled academically ineligible for the bowl game. That's pathetic - just keep your grades up for goodness sakes, you're getting a free ride. That's the fat.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by XTIGERK.

Answer 16

If we simply just miss on a kid and he is a hard worker, does all the right things and make good grades then you shouldn't push him out. You should be honest with him and tell him he probably never cracks the 2 deep and some of those kids will leave for playing time elsewhere.

Couldn't agree more but if the kids doesn't wont to leave then leave him alone.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by 4forcu.

Answer 17

Have you pushed a kid in that type of scenario? Has USC?

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by XTIGERK.

Answer 18

I've never had a problem with a coach sending players off if they can't help the team- or the coach doesn't feel they can help the team.


If it was me, I wouldn't send a player off that was convinced that he was happy sitting on the bench and not playing- if he was doing everything else required of him. But I don't have an issue if coaches send the player off either.


I disagreed with Spurrier oversigning and I've said so quite a few times on here.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by SGamecock3.

Answer 19

I agree with your stances on telling players to move on - and I agree on Edsall as well. 24 players is a ton and you are right- he's been in danger of losing the entire team- and community.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by SGamecock3.

Answer 20

Freddie Brown Jr was urged to move on by Spurrier. He took a lot of heat on this board and others for it at the time saying it was a terrible move and that it would hurt him recruiting, etc.

Freddie Brown Sr is the coach at Spartanburg High. I read recently where Spurrier is recruiting a kid up there and Freddie Brown Sr is the coach (and Jr. is on the staff there) and says the kid is South Carolina's to lose right now.


College football (and other college sports), as much as some want to deny it, is a business. It's a tough, cut-throat business - especially these days.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by SGamecock3.

Answer 21

Huh? How could i push a kid? Yes USC pushed a kid lastyear that had good grades and was never in trouble

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by 4forcu.

Answer 22

Sorry - typing fast on iPhone. Meant have "we" as in Clemson. I can't recall one. And please Gamecock fans, don't show your ignorance by saying Ray Ray.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by XTIGERK.

Answer 23

Edsall is doing exactly what he needs to do IMO. He gets paid to do what he's doing. Yes - Frig did great with HIS players, winning ACC COTY in the process before getting fired. These same players are NOT Edsall's players, and don't fit his schemes. They will ride the pines, so better that they leave soon. The QB sucked this past year and lost his job quickly, even though he won accolades the previous year and was expected to light it up last year.

No - leave Edsall alone - he's going to make Maryland much better long term. SOS - as much as I hate to say it - is making very good decisions cutting out the dead wood. That's why USuC owns our azz now. Why can't anyone see this? Maybe we need to get our heads outta our azzes and see how good coaches make their programs better.

You asked - I don't sugar-coat the reality of it all.

GO TIGERS!! I hope we beat both of these dang teams this year. We'd better bring our "A" game.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by ctiger75.

Answer 24

I agree- I think Edsall will turn out well. He's getting rid of players that don't do it his way- or that he doesn't believe will work out at Maryland.

As I've said many times, I think a coach owes it to tell players the honest truth- that if they aren't in his plans- that they need to move on unless they want to stand and watch others play football for their entire college football career.

I'd rather him take a slight PR hit with some rival fans than let a kid stand on the sideline and burn his college years thinking he's got a shot at playing time. In the long term, even the kids appreciate it.


I think all coaches do this. Some just say they told a kid to move on- others just transfer away and the coach doesn't really say much about it. But it happens all the time.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by SGamecock3.

Answer 25

Cant link cause I'm on mobile, but take a look at this roasting of Randy:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/randy-edsall-has-maryland-entering-unchartered-waters/2012/02/16/gIQArzdAIR_story.html

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by XTIGERK.

Answer 26

Wait TS i have no problem with a coach telling his players where they stand. I have a problem with a coach pushing them out the door.

These kids didn't recruit the school the school recruited them.

If can't see there's a problem at Maryland then you'll never see it.

20 something kids have left

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by 4forcu.

Answer 27

Agree 4. "trimming the fat" consists of 3-4 players. There is a mutiny going on at Maryland. Players are leaving that Randy needs to keep. Big difference.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by XTIGERK.

Answer 28

I don't know the details at Maryland- just read a few articles. I agree 24 players looks bad.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by SGamecock3.

Answer 29

Whatever TS you started this thing and now you're backing off

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by 4forcu.

Answer 30

Not backing off. 24 players leaving looks bad. Doesn't mean the coach did something wrong, or shouldn't have done it. But it does look bad on the outside looking in.

This post was edited on 2/17 9:32 PM by SGamecock3

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by SGamecock3.

Answer 31

What do Clemson fans think of what Randy Edsall is doing at Maryland? Reply

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some folks on here got pretty upset at Spurrier "running off players" when he got to USC. When Spurrier arrived he urged/pushed out/cut 7-8 players that weren't playing and that he didn't feel would contribute to the team. (similiar to a lot of coaches, especially Les Miles, and Nick Saban)

Randy Edsall has ridded himself of 24 Maryland football players since he took the job 13 months ago. Even the QB is leaving, and Edsall has made a point not to release him from his scholarship.

You tried to make SOS look good by using maryland as an example!!!
Now you come back and say it's bad!!!

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by 4forcu.

Answer 32

1). Incorrect. I mentioned it to put it into context because folks blew all up when spurrier did it like he was the only one. But no one had even mentioned Maryland doing it when it involved 1/4 of the team and was making national news. Thought that a little selective.

2) I didn't say it was bad. I said it looked bad from the outside. I also said I had no problem with it -regardless of the coach doing it.

Originally posted on The Bad Apple by SGamecock3.